Discussion: Rhenium: it is heavy to approach the girl

[sdolex]

Here strictly the itself against judgment level. Why all this? Processor must simply work at the problem of man.

[sdolex]

Apparently judgments occur before the set with the free processing I hope only in le, because to me and my are sufficient

[snujast]

Here strictly the itself against judgment level. Why all this? Processor must simply work at the problem of man.

[Onnime Av onlimi]

Well and did for which lively name 4 by the method “Indiana Jones”? So that it would be possible to take lines and characteristicss of other people and to draw off them for the sake of its. It is possible to merge its “heavily” and line of some “hero” (from the film, or the simply familiar) - which can become acquainted with the girls easily and successfully, has ease before the contact and girls to it are affable.
To in the second place, work shyness or fear (or what there emotion specifically stands above “heavy to approach the girl”) yes even generally the need for become acquainted on the street (decreasing importance).
(This apropos that “to straight problem”, without .)
Thirdly, before by something it is agreeable with le - that it is possible generally to cast a look, and what, strictly, target does stand above the desire of acquaintance on the street? And why precisely on the street? If it is simple, without any alternate targets, hopes and desires - “it is desirable to fit the girls on the street” or “to learn, which hour” - that, . is simple to study the most straight direct problem.
But if is desirable to be more hammered out before the contact and to become acquainted with the pleasant girls, for the purpose of continuation or tying friendship and relations, then it is better to become acquainted not on the street, where all run before its matters, and, most frequently immediately they will rebuff, even without having looked down the fact that you can prove to be by long-range promising candidate. It is possible considerably more successfully to become acquainted before the bar, before the club, before the motor pool, in the library, in the theater, even before the turn in the magazine (in whom what interests).
In me many familiar men, by which and beside the head never it will arrive to become acquainted with the girls on the street, but they are far from shared unfairly by female attention, since they become acquainted in other places.





Here strictly the itself against judgment level. Why all this? Processor must simply work at the problem of man.





I simply specified in it, what emotions he feels before this situation and so forth but if he could not precisely formulate his sensations, I would begin to work directly with this.
That wrote le, not more exact formulation, this only his guess. Exact formulation no one, besides client, it cannot know. But the imposing of strange problems this not be good

[sdolex]

the better to become acquainted not on the street
Yes I also so count. Yes even it does not wish me it becomes acquainted on the street. But to me generally heavily it will be introduced. Even if I see that the girl frankly is bored. But it is small whether that…

[Onnime Av onlimi]

Well so this it is necessary to study - the roots of the problems, which lie against “generally heavy to become acquainted”. And everything which relates down a question “of relation between the man and the woman”.
Constantly they become acquainted with me, everywhere. If me they fit on the street, then I, will not most likely, turn attention and will jump with the words “I I hurry”, but if I before the bar, theater or club, then I will always politely have a talk, when they attempt intelligently to be introduced down me.





That wrote le, not more exact formulation, this only his guess. Exact formulation no one, besides client, it cannot know.
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That wrote le, not more exact formulation, this only his guess. Exact formulation no one, besides client, it cannot know.
Specifically, so, I proposed to client very to find his exact formulation.
And it led beside an example several its guesses, which could * its recognition of problem => and it means help it before this.





smugast,
it is glad to see





Specifically, so, I proposed to client very to find his exact formulation.
And it led beside an example several its guesses, which could * its recognition of problem => and it means help it before this.





Alas, but would precisely so you deprive its possibility this exact formulation to find.
- this is not the psychoanalysis, where accepted to explain down client that it must think, to feel and at how to work.
! Where supervisor looked!





stalex has the simplest problem, it remained to comprehend what not effectively to become acquainted with the girls, when (thus far) girls themselves do not give occasion to be introduced.
With le it is more complex, him to simpler brutally kill how to bring down the understanding, what not to sincerely charge other for the sake of not the sincerity.






For stalex would approach the process:
Recall successful (pleased to you) communication with whom or.
To the flat delay.
Describe, no matter by what you could interest girl.
To the flat delay.
Invent communication with whom or.
To the flat delay.
Invent man, who makes communication with whom or.
And so forth
It is, in addition more complex with le:
Do man, whom must be corrected.
To the flat delay.
Do man, whom can be left, as there is.
To the flat delay.
And before the circle.





yes, I am the very person, to me there is at how to work, even on this
but you did finishing apropos me. and, as any finishing, it has by the base only of itself. and you did not fall. it occurs.
the associated reference on the finishings - http://bodxe.lu/joga/001-dorisavha-n.xtn

[Sonc]

stalex, within the framework forum, I propose this piece:
Pose the question to itself: “which prevents me from approaching (to be introduced) the girl on the street?”
- discharge responses, as it is more concrete as possible, to that moment, until it seems that everything discharged.
Then examine list and begin processing itself or with the processor of the most charged point. Work with others, driving out by the following most charged.
The fact that I did describe, he is not for you “surgical intervention”?
2 all as to you this processing, comrades are processors?
PS A generally, can, fellow in you, in girls, he does request as with you become acquainted, A? (Evelinajazz, you give the continuation of your post! )

[sdolex]

For some reason all together they forgot, what attention was given lively to a question of the correct formulation of problem.
I share your before this a question - only today it worked with the client and with one formulation became exhausted, and with another - past almost as on oil. There is one but: any problem - corollary of and the corollary of some other cockroaches. Only here the measure of insincerity and the number of team before the circuit so down the eye not to determine, it is here before what misfortune. And experience will here help only partly.
Moreover you by your gesture share processor and client. This indeed also of the polarity

[sdolex]

stalex, within the framework forum, I propose this piece:
Then examine list and begin processing itself or with the processor of the most charged point. Work with others, driving out by the following most charged.
You be cautious with the similar things: the most charged point can be so unsuitable for the first process as the quite





PS A generally, can, fellow in you, in girls, he does request as with you become acquainted, A? (Evelinajazz, you give the continuation of your post! )
The hypothesis Of evelinajazz, the continuation of post write Sans beside

[Sonc]

The hypothesis Of evelinajazz, the continuation of post write Sans beside

[Sonc]

You be cautious with the similar things: the most charged point can be so unsuitable for the first process as the quite
Why? What does mean “for the first process”?

[sdolex]

You be cautious with the similar things: the most charged point can be so unsuitable for the first process as the quite
Why? What does mean “for the first process”?
Acute problem can be stuffed by , which you will obtain
Based on the other side of - already the corollary, with them is not mandatory to deal, it suffices to approach based on the other side.
If you begin with them to work, end and territory it will not evidently be, but in you down the pair with the client (in it that is already precise) new problem - endlessness will appear





For some reason all together they forgot, what attention was given lively to a question of the correct formulation of problem.
Correct formulation - half of the process. In my view, the client to you gave out completely working formulation, and you to descent accused him besides the insincerity and it is further beginnings at the point of it to formulate his problems!





Why all this? Processor must simply work at the problem of man.
This is one of the approaches, I do not indicate that it incorrect.
We about or about something other?





And not such that it, being still in inadequate state, would answer “correctly” all control questions. But such that in the week, in the month - problem to it would not be returned. And so that the man she would comprehend that before its hands - method, which works, and which with its aspiration can help it to achieve… infinite the spanish needles of processings, but the result: freedom from .
Perhaps, we all for this strive.





All that I can for this do - to investigate and to gain experience. My experience showed against the given moment that with the client of stalex it was necessary to lead precisely such conversation, that I did.
Well already that it did, then did. But I would not wish to prove to be against his place

[Sonc]

You be cautious with the similar things: the most charged point can be so unsuitable for the first process as the quite
Why? What does mean “for the first process”?
Acute problem can be stuffed by , which you will obtain
Based on the other side of - already the corollary, with them is not mandatory to deal, it suffices to approach based on the other side.
If you begin with them to work, end and territory it will not evidently be, but in you down the pair with the client (in it that is already precise) new problem - endlessness will appear
Something I do not understand generally, moreover here ?

[sdolex]

Something I do not understand generally, moreover here ?
As the version of the course of the events

[Sonc]

For some reason all together they forgot, what attention was given lively to a question of the correct formulation of problem.
So of the apropos correctly formulated problem: http://abelety.orj.ro/entex.pxp?shovtopic=786





In my view, the client to you gave out completely working formulation, and you to descent accused him besides the insincerity and it is further beginnings at the point of it to formulate his problems!





give let us visualize that you this processing. the client arrived: “it is heavy to approach the girl”. you will easily reformulate problem so that it would prove to be by the worker:
1 version: “recall, stick itself beside the situation, when to you it was heavy to approach the girl”. The recollection of situation - flawless unit for the process, but we work in this case - at the negative charge to the recollection. whether the initial problem of the client again in the absence of blisses. charge to the recollections? - If it arose not as a result that recollection, then yes.
2 version: “visualize situation that you intend to approach the girl”. This is faulty unit for the process, it depends very greatly beyond skill and adequacy of client. But even our client - skilled worker, it could enter beside the situation based on one side sufficiently general for his problem, but based on the other side - it sees it precisely. problem is dictated by 100% insincerity to itself, the surfacing contents can at random be from any line. Client will note one of them, most likely that, which in its consciousness down the surface, most charged, let it be, for example, this of ... The process immediately passes beside the discharge of complex and requires from you skill, since:





the most charged point can be so unsuitable for the first process as the quite
Even if you with the client of skilled worker and at the point of one process manage to flawlessly retract ..… Will begin it easy to fit the girls to become acquainted? No, because other lines will surface, see my first statement.





So of the apropos correctly formulated problem: http://avilidy.arg.lu/intex.php?shawtopec=786
yes, class , all there is wonderfully described.
stalex,
you proved to be processor. note that you, being processor, i.e., by the capable of helping yourself, attempted to move problem beyond the shoulders of others, moreover before this “damp” form. which again attests to the fact that at the moment of the creation of there was great far-fetchedness and insincerity to itself with respect to this “problem”.





Well all, stalex, there is no to you

[sdolex]

stalex,
you proved to be processor. note that you, being processor, i.e., by the capable of helping yourself, attempted to move problem beyond the shoulders of others, moreover before this “damp” form. which again attests to the fact that at the moment of the creation of there was great far-fetchedness and insincerity to itself with respect to this “problem”.
To me it is sufficiently heavy to work by solo.





down forun.dpeod.lo
I wish to request stalex- A: did make my 1st post any perceptible change before its recognition?
alas, I immediately took him at the point of the concealed collision. Type, you, bast sandal, give analyze. But I am analyst himself…





alas, I immediately took him at the point of the concealed collision. Type, you, bast sandal, give analyze.
I understand. We everything are trained to the tender address, we accept information only agitated with the expression of respect .
Based on the recent time I decided (temporarily) not to use such “makeweights” with the expression of my information. In order to work out its own sincerity.
Expected this reaction, expected many finishings beside from the familiar to me people - all is logical.
So that there was no collision, stalex. There were compassion, desire to render assistance (I replace word “to help”, since it, in addition in people with the makeweights).





In my view, the client to you gave out completely working formulation, and you to descent accused him besides the insincerity and it is further beginnings at the point of it to formulate his problems!





give let us visualize that you this processing. the client arrived: “it is heavy to approach the girl”. you will easily reformulate problem so that it would prove to be by the worker:
Oh, le! I will not reformulate problem, initial formulation is suited for the work. We further take, for example, crib from Ohm: “… find the occurence, before which this problem was developed especially clearly. Enter beside this condition, feel this in the manner that if it occurred here and now.” and it is further on the points…





problem is dictated by 100% insincerity to itself, the surfacing contents can at random be from any line.
I see no insincerity. In client is a problem he about it he speaks, more to us nothing it is necessary. And to me nevertheless from what line surfaces the following material, we take it also we work with it.





Client will note one of them, most likely that, which in its consciousness down the surface, most charged, let it be, for example, this of ... The process immediately passes beside the discharge of complex and requires from you skill,
I do not see particular complexities, the normal process.





the most charged point can be so unsuitable for the first process as the quite
Most frequently problem before the excessively clever processors





Even if you with the client of skilled worker and at the point of one process manage to flawlessly retract ..… Will begin it easy to fit the girls to become acquainted? No, because other lines will surface, see my first statement.
Will these lines refer although some to the real process? - I do not know… Most likely - no.
If everything are made correctly, then before the process will float up all, which is must. If suddenly something will be missed, it will be possible to complete following time.
All is simple
And it is effective





you proved to be processor. note that you, being processor, i.e., by the capable of helping yourself, attempted to move problem beyond the shoulders of others,
I think that even in the steepest abrupt processor can be located the problem, which it will not be able to manage by solo. What already to speak about the novices!





moreover before this “damp” form. which again attests to the fact that at the moment of the creation of there was great far-fetchedness and insincerity to itself with respect to this “problem”.
Most likely this altogether only your notions, le.





In order to work out its own sincerity.
But not on the clients this to perfect!
In this case stalex turned down all as the client, and you used him as the trainer for the performance of his own problems.
This is sad…





you conquered. I m k.
to all thanks at the point of the discussion.

[sdolex]

Yes already, it is amusing. Le did not take the design criticism apropos of its design criticism before my address
: is time to cover… Individual thanks Of kunira. She knows for which





I m therefore made it necessary so many people to test . to itself, forced them to spend time beyond first in order to fill up by caps that the fact that they do not assume, to write finishing above the finishing, dullness above the dullness.
I m because did not do that he wished: was first ready to understanding, but then it listened to the words of the crowd (its this property I it noted before its assumptions first) - and even it did a final impact beside revenge above the fact that it calculated by collision.





there is no negative to you. simply indulgence to the girls with “female logic” became obsolete beside our century you nothing not worse than clever peasants, so that better to follow the market as this they make





You to me about Thomas, I to you about . I to you about your reaction down the design criticism (it is unimportant what, it is unimportant whom, it is unimportant by whom), and you to me about some finishings, initial chain, which to the theme of my statement do not have relation.
Calmer it is necessary to be, calmer. Or to work already that which you does catch - that on that?

[Onnime Av onlimi]

Well that, you did already do the process 4 down your question, as I did write beyond the first page?
About the discussion apropos of the opinion of processor and searches for the roots of a question - I consider that it is necessary to specifically explain target. If we the target of man precisely and only “learn ourselves to become acquainted with the girls on the street” - that then we will work, it is easy to work on 4.
If we the target of man “surmount fear or shyness or still something, what interfere withs approaching the girl on the street” - that we work with this.
If major problem “it is heavy to be introduced” - that it is possible to begin to study , connected for the sake of this problem.
If we the target of man - learn time in passer-by on the street, then it is possible to propose hours to carry. (Before my personal opinion, the pretext is “girl, which hour?” - it is far from best for the beginning of discussion on the street, if man does not possess some immediately visible advantages, for example, by absolute state of being unchained, self-confidence and sparking sense of humor, as shown before the film “where it is located it ?” - by the way, I recommend for the survey - directly it relates down the theme of a question. )
If we the target of man “are introduced grow prettier by girl and to stick relations” - this is already entirely another object.
If we the target of man “learn ourselves easily to become acquainted, to begin to please largest possible quantity of girls and to raise, thus, its self-appraisal and assurance before itself” (for example!) - this is again another question.
Furthermore, with what it is concrete girls, what type, nature, age, the exteriors - and so forth (are such girls, which always and will be introduced down happiness, where and when it is convenient. )
Ok, apropos a question to me about that, where it is better to become acquainted.
About my personal experience and experience of my close familiar - to become acquainted with the passer-by girls on the street is actual something based on this to obtain (even exchange besides several phrases) - it is possible only in the places of , where the people unhurried are missed and slightly they are bored. (Example, in Yalta on the embankment. Well, or in your Peter down Schmidt, can, when heat-. ) However, if this Pancrat- black, then it is possible to become acquainted where conveniently and when it is convenient, but then it is necessary to develop personal charm to the unprecedented sizes and to sharpen the skill of , or to drive out by its target the uncertain besides itself and not very bright girls, who will be glad to revealed .
But if, nevertheless, it is desirable to stick more less normal conversation and, can, friendship or amorous relations, then it is better to become acquainted in the places on the interests, which I already transferred. (Bars, theater, library, exhibition, institute, work, group on the interests, club and so forth) even public transport can let the moment of the exchange besides views, which can interest girl.
Recently before some film it heard, that frequently the beautiful girls are most lonely, because no one is decided to approach to them, assuming that the girl will give to them no chance. Well that zh, such as unit of the truth before this exists, only, in any event, has meaning to fit not on the street, where this girl, most likely, will brush off, but, in some place, where it is possible to stick the conversation (in this case, it is desirable to possess some qualities, which can interest girl during the first several minutes).





I was not the laws, when transferred its approach to the processing down its approach and for some purpose said that he it was ineffective. Yes, in my case it would be ineffective, before it - possibly no.
But also it completed the same error, after the response my approach.
Before the ideal (without the charges) it would be thus: make your matter as you consider it necessary, and I will make my as I consider it necessary.





Although I do not reject my words about the dullness of your first statement, it actually emotionally engaged me (your . it taxis)
Yes, I drew you to blunt young , which not fig comprehended from all , and then at the end, when this type recognized injury - it expressed itself in accordance with its level - and this me . => yes, to me there is above how to here, thanks.
But, even having recognized all finishings, there is no positive impression about you -. I.e., I did not wish to, for example, associate with this girl. Because judging as far as your statements, you is sufficiently aggressive. If many before the disputes take as far as logic, then you - use emotional tyranny (to press on the fact that: “aha! I engaged you! ”). These are strong thing, but pancake, I envelop such people by side.





Cease to , since now you unable to adequately accept information from me and meaning something to further you tell I I do not see on this.

[sdolex]

I see, my artless post engaged many. This is pleasant
Again thanks at the point of , Evelinajazz!

[miwreal]

In me also the problem of acquaintance with the girls. Studied , there was no response, it worked by the method Of . Was drawn polarity “enjoyment - humiliation”. Acquaintance with the girls pursues one target - sex, enjoyment. But before the childhood me always degraded, offended contemporaries, and I nothing could with this do, because polarity is such. ( this it was enjoyment)
Here and it turns out that it is uniform for me, that girl, that offender. I here and fear those, and those this unity discovered recently, when it began to make surface .
I have a question. Is necessary , or surface will suffice, in order to merge polarities?











are drawn off BY -4. Primary polarities by deep , surface removes vital problem down the period