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Sonc





Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 15:23    

Well perhaps it is possible to speak about the freedom out of the context, about the freedom generally?
That is freedom on the same level, can be the confinement on other, which, in turn, can be free election on the third and so to infinity.
, freedom and confinement are determined as far as context - the absolutes are here not applied.





We cannot discontinue the unit of the play, but entire great play we do can? This as?
It is however strange - to me seems this most logical - precisely that entire great play more easily (more reasonable) to discontinue or to replace, than its only unit…
In me are now designed the thoughts in regard to this, especially before the process of reading some materials, then more greatly I will write… Thus far it seems to me that this as treatment of infection instead of the treatment of symptom. For example, a cold - is virus, and head cold, the inflamed throat and temperature - is the reaction of our immune system down this virus. Directing efforts down the direct release from the virus, or down the aid to our immune system - we, thus get rid also besides the symptoms. But if we treat only head cold one - that very virus of a cold or influenza is not killed.
Thus - getting rid besides the great play - we we get rid also besides all its aspects, while release from only one aspect either will not have meaning before the system of whole play or it will only worsen play, after introducing chaos or forming “hole”.
Correct me, if I do make mistakes - but not about this whether principle is constructed ? We have a problem; “envy to the rich adjacent unit” - we begin the process and after some time we come down the polarities, for example, “spiritual and material”, we neutralize these polarities and thus, we get rid not only besides “unpleasant feeling with respect to the adjacent unit”, but also besides the still definite set of problems, connected for the sake of the play “spiritual and material”.
At the same time, if we do take a system of the type EFT or another system, which does not permit at the point of new to be developed and we simply do cover with saliva “irritation on adjacent unit” before the turning blue, even if as a result we do obtain alleviation - how a full-valued will be a maximally prolonged release from this undesirable condition?
Another pair of the thoughts apropos of …
Before the introduction to the book on I Of (and also before the distribution) - lively he speaks, that if we its problem “twist” on , then the response I Of will be another. Lively specifically isolates this category of questions (problems) - as our negative of relation or the nonacceptance of other people or of the activities of other people.
He indicates that such questions even it is not necessary to assign I Of , without having worked them on . Thus, it turns out that (processing) can wipe the unit Of -… so me it seems…





Well perhaps it is possible to speak about the freedom out of the context, about the freedom generally?
That is freedom on the same level, can be the confinement on other, which, in turn, can be free election on the third and so to infinity.
It is completely agreeable…
Generally, since the beginning of the creation of this theme - I for itself resolved this question - not because found the response down it, but because it me ceased so strongly to disturb… For example, before the given second I not at all see the differences between the fate and .





Well perhaps it is possible to speak about the freedom out of the context, about the freedom generally?
In my opinion we exactly have context - plays, beside which we play





That is freedom on the same level, can be the confinement on other, which, in turn, can be free election on the third and so to infinity.
Before the context of plays this can indicate, for example, that the fact that we completely master situation before one play occurence (i.e. we have complete freedom of choice, up to the fact that we can move out this occurence, without losing it), while before the whole play there is no this freedom, we are restricted before the decision and cannot the play move out. Completely it can be, that this play is the unit of more global play, about which we thus far can, for example, and not know nothing and nevertheless to participate before it without realizing this. , perhaps, not at all it has meaning to speak about the freedom before this play.





It is however strange - to me seems this most logical - precisely that entire great play more easily (more reasonable) to discontinue or to replace, than its only unit…
Certainly, but in this case will be discontinued its unit.





Thus - getting rid besides the great play - we we get rid also besides all its aspects, while release from only one aspect either will not have meaning before the system of whole play or it will only worsen play, after introducing chaos or forming “hole”.
Yes, it is agreeable. But in this case there can be so that this play, besides which we got rid it is the aspect of the more global play





Correct me, if I do make mistakes - but not about this whether principle is constructed ? We have a problem; “envy to the rich adjacent unit” - we begin the process and after some time we come down the polarities, for example, “spiritual and material”, we neutralize these polarities and thus, we get rid not only besides “unpleasant feeling with respect to the adjacent unit”, but also besides the still definite set of problems, connected for the sake of the play “spiritual and material”.
Can we before this example, when desired, cease to play beside the play “spiritual and material”? To move out of it is more to it not to be returned?





Thus, it turns out that (processing) can wipe the unit Of -… so me it seems…
It also so seems me, only this, perhaps, relates not only down , but also to others I see processing.





It is however strange - to me seems this most logical - precisely that entire great play more easily (more reasonable) to discontinue or to replace, than its only unit…
Certainly, but in this case will be discontinued its unit.
aha, I thought, before this and meaning…





Yes, it is agreeable. But in this case there can be so that this play, besides which we got rid it is the aspect of more global play.
Yes, then we will simply play against other level beside another play… I so -…





Correct me, if I do make mistakes - but not about this whether principle is constructed ? We have a problem; “envy to the rich adjacent unit” - we begin the process and after some time we come down the polarities, for example, “spiritual and material”, we neutralize these polarities and thus, we get rid not only besides “unpleasant feeling with respect to the adjacent unit”, but also besides the still definite set of problems, connected for the sake of the play “spiritual and material”.
Can we before this example, when desired, cease to play beside the play “spiritual and material”? To move out of it is more to it not to be returned?
Well, I thought, before this consists the neutralization of polarities - when we properly draw off them - either we leave from precisely this play or we continue play beside our pleasure, without scaffolding on its individual aspects…
I.e. - it appears, before principle, freedom from the play - you wish play, you do not wish - do not play…





Thus, it turns out that (processing) can wipe the unit Of -… so me it seems…
It also so seems me, only this, perhaps, relates not only down , but also to others I see processing.
Well I here only on lively did refer - it, he did for some reason, precisely, present as equipment before the book, then, on my question before the distribution - it did again refer concretely to , and even in it was the article apropos of the fact that “ does wipe”… apparently, somehow differently a little it does perform, than remaining processing - can, because of the fact that before the process Of - we are precisely realized target (aspects), but simply we do not wipe charge? …





Can we before this example, when desired, cease to play beside the play “spiritual and material”? To move out of it is more to it not to be returned?
Well, I thought, before this consists the neutralization of polarities - when we properly draw off them - either we leave from precisely this play or we continue play beside our pleasure, without scaffolding on its individual aspects…
I.e. - it appears, before principle, freedom from the play - you wish play, you do not wish - do not play…
It seems to me that the neutralization of polarities removes , from the play. After this, the man can deliberately look down this play, be dismantled with its components. It can so be, that the initial targets of play are already achieved or no longer necessary, but man continues to play to on- habit, then he can deliberately discontinue this play. Or, for example, he , that the obstacles before the play are too great thus far uselessly beside it to play and so forth
The element of freedom relative to this play in other words, appears. But if man would wish to discontinue this play, but cannot (i.e. before this it is restricted), which means, in my view, not all units of this play by it they are defined ( it keeps) or the, possibly, this play there is a unit of more global play. Perhaps, this can be, also, with the decanted play polarities…





Apparently, somehow differently a little does perform, than remaining processing - can, because of the fact that before the process Of - we are precisely realized target (aspects), but simply we do not wipe charge? …
It can be.
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Mattyred





Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 14:58    

of successes to you) ")





Since they did achieve, you will not share? I am serious.
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Mattyred





Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 23:36    

Studies giving live I give (better to place before )





I drew off itself for the sake of the signs of horoscope, with the maps of container and with and generally based on it is much than, it is simple so for the interest. My opinion, all this the same illusion as the large part of the fact that simply is realized - our inherent creation.





Studies giving live
I.e., the realization of the fact that all this - illusion, is alien to you after merging of all these things?
I recently stumbled beyond some appropriate quotations: “If… someone thinks differently from I, he not only not me by these, but he, on the contrary, enriches me. Foundation of our unity - men, which higher than each of us.” . de Saint- Exupery
“Future - this thoroughly rendered harmless present. “Brothers Are
“Every time we look on the thing not only based on the other side, but also as the other eyes - therefore we consider that they were changed.” . Pascal
Maddyred - beautiful nick, thanks at the point of the flowers, here to you personal magician.
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Mattyred





Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 03:16    

I.e., the realization of the fact that all this - illusion, is alien to you after merging of all these things?





the Don Juan spoke that reality - this is incomprehensible secret, and all our attempts of what that there to fit to it before the meaning of description or understanding - is simple .
Is alien understanding, that the large part of that, before that we believe and to what we attach value - illusorily and have invented we, that in reality, matter proceed in no way in the manner that we now this we visualize. That the individual with all her ideals, convictions and knowledge this only armature which keeps our ship in pier) ") : thanks at the point of the magician, it is very dear) ")





the Don Juan spoke that reality - this is incomprehensible secret, and all our attempts of what that there to fit to it before the meaning of description or understanding - is simple .
Is alien understanding, that the large part of that, before that we believe and to what we attach value - illusorily and have invented we, that in reality, matter proceed in no way in the manner that we now this we visualize. That the individual with all her ideals, convictions and knowledge this only armature which keeps our ship in pier) ")
Make it possible to me you to answer as far as your signature…
However, “any truth already illusion, illusion can become truth.”
How many people, so many and peaces, and the peace of the Don Juan, for example, impressively differ from my, although before its statement undoubtedly there is obvious meaning, it is so subjective as any “thought uttered”.
You do see, how it is possible as far as one and the same methods to obtain opposite results? :. in me, the greater the processing, the greater the sensation, that there are before this peace and the laws (not those that they usually appear associatively with the word “law”), and the defined practically firm forces as the sun the Moon, for example (thus far we live on this earth…)… But this, as spoke lively,” personal of direct of experience "; therefore in each it its…
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Mattyred





Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:52    

Precisely!!! Each sees the fact that he wishes to see)) including I!





Hurray, moved out the book Of on the interpretation I Of (I Of ).





By the way, my familiar adviser on traditional I Of can predict the outcome of football match and fluctuation on the exchange…)





By the way, my familiar adviser on traditional I Of can predict the outcome of football match and fluctuation on the exchange…)
He, certainly, multi-millionaire?
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W212





Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 03:53    

By the way, my familiar adviser on traditional I Of can predict the outcome of football match and fluctuation on the exchange…)
He, certainly, multi-millionaire?
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By the way, my familiar adviser on traditional I Of can predict the outcome of football match and fluctuation on the exchange…)
He, certainly, multi-millionaire?
Aha, I expected that someone this will say.
It is far from poor and it the very happy and satisfied by life person (that personally for me the sign of success). Do always go jokes about the fact that if the predictors of the definite type do know how to read or to form the future - that why they do not use this in order to become millionaires? Because, in the first place, they know, to what extent they can adjust their life, since other priorities consider their vector, in the second place, in them. It goes without saying, the majority of well-known skilled workers foehn - today millionaires, and in some of them other entirely priorities. For my familiar - to be occupied only dear work - it is not simple for the money, but only interesting and creative, to travel peacefully throughout the world - to rest, or to treat project at any point of the terrestial globe, to receive knowledge in the monastery U -, to associate for the sake of the real skilled workers of before their medium, to drive down any seminars and to receive knowledge privately in skilled workers, to have a completely normal apartment and a vehicle and tons d of all this for it is completely sufficient. The target to become millionaire in it does not stand, since the price of this in many instances is also high and he knows this wonderfully, nevertheless, it can help another person to achieve maximum potential. Let us say so, it lives the life, which pleases it and it is completely successful and money for it not target, but means.
Personally it does not play on the exchange, but football predicts sometimes simply on the hitching post.
Aldus also consult for the sake of I Of - thus, they also could pose to the book question, type “at what day me to buy such shares that they would be raised rapidly before the price and so forth I could become millionaire”, but, I think, they this do not make - since priorities in them others and they manufacture the impression of people, which live precisely that life, which they wish…
It seems to me that the greater in man of present metaphysical or spiritual knowledge, the less the chances, that it will begin to use these knowledge down the commonplace “to become millionaire”…
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nalto





Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 22:34    

Hurray, moved out the book Of on the interpretation I Of (I Of ).





By the way, my familiar adviser on traditional I Of can predict the outcome of football match and fluctuation on the exchange…)
But where it is possible to buy this book? Is available it before the electronic version?





It seems to me that than it is more in man of the present metaphysical or spiritual knowledge
… that more in it the crafty explanations of that, why this knowledge cannot be used before the real peace.
Money - they ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE means, them do not eat and before them do not sleep. This is simple abstraction such that not to go beside . There is nothing new before this. “To become millionaire” does not indicate to sleep and to be delirious by the piles of dollars, this it indicates to have more than sufficient resources for in all, that I only can wish for itself and for this peace.





It seems to me that than it is more in man of the present metaphysical or spiritual knowledge
… that more in it the crafty explanations of that, why this knowledge cannot be used before the real peace.
Money - they ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE means, them do not eat and before them do not sleep. This is simple abstraction such that not to go beside . There is nothing new before this. “To become millionaire” does not indicate to sleep and to be delirious by the piles of dollars, this it indicates to have more than sufficient resources for in all, that I only can wish for itself and for this peace.
About the crafty explanations I do not know… It seems to me that without any explanations it is live, and other people, which master predictive technicians - simply live that life, which they wish and know how to be happy, but billion on the agenda in them do not stand, although they completely use their knowledge and for achievement the material goods (this I it personally heard from lively, by the way).
But apropos the second - me it seemed that I described what do that person has, about whom I spoke - precisely this situation. In it is sufficient resources for in all, what it desires for itself and in it there is something to make resources for others.
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dhi sertifiid procecsol





Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 05:35    

Astrology to help to the processing





at the Moscow seminar indicated that if there is a possibility, it is possible to turn down a good astrologer so that it on the map would look, what are strong negative tendencies. In order then these pieces to .
I began to work with the astrologer. There was thus far only one session, and so many in all it ! I did not expect that this there will be this energy process with the sensation “of diving” and the light “”.
Since on the map astrologer can speak before hours, then I asked for the first meeting to be focused only beyond those polarities, which most brightly were designated before the map.
Them proved to be several pairs. But most basic more it is similar on , than themselves. This pair is developed before everything. And in me it is not received to separate itself based on this polarity. These are my essence, the foundation of all my manifestations, all pulses… Became evident such aspects, which I above itself did not note, because they were for me “on default”, as the fabric of my existence and I did not drive off them based on itself. But astrologer deployed me to them by face. Shift before recognition itself and the peace can be compared with the fact, which was after merging of .
This gave to me (I hope that it will be and continuation) sufficiently much content for the processing.





C, greatly I understand you. Before their time a good natal map, and the analysis la Of simply they turned over my recognition, and very much that is what became understandable. Moreover, astrologer it was able all paradoxes (polarities, as we now they said) also to decompose on the regiments of so that even questions it did not remain, this it was the precise description (personally I for the sake of it never it was encountered)…
I so understand, that Young was the first analyst, who put to use the natal map (by his and patients) before the work…





Here here the very interesting article of Young himself, where is affected “astro-psychology”. http://ocunos.som.oo/sdad.bhb?id=169
One of of the books of Young in Russia Of Of is (together with its husband by Vitalius) astro-psychologist, it makes natal map with the complete analysis of archetypes.
natal map also can much that is what describe interesting…





In me was the case on the forum Of , when before one discussion about the verses (!) I shared for the sake of my preferences, and one of the participants in the discussion she said: “, from where such strange tastes… A well yes, in you - such a one before the connection for the sake of such a one (I will not now remember exact terms) - this speaks, that the principal vital paradox between life and death, existence and nonexistence, you try there, and there to be”. Said man, which neither me nor my map- that and saw, simply I before another theme some data laid out, without the explanations. I please to now compare this statement with my , which in me 2 times with the different a little names were decanted - “life and death” - the first pair, “existence and nonexistence” - the second pair…
But Aldus to me it somehow said that it assumes not one serious decision without I -, and it never feeds it. I requested, what she puts to use in this case the interpretation (present interpretation I - you will not find before the Internet, there whole matter for the adviser), she said that it puts to use the book of interpretations lively, which it will move out the month through 3 (in the English)… here, I wait now. I love I - …
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dhi sertifiid procecsol





Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 05:31    

Evelina, thanks) "
(did visit on your the references at the end of each post this you you will eat up? this so is wonderful!! )





Both I give drink and I play, and I write… thanks at the point of the compliment.
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Tatiamo





Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 22:27    

I certainly not astrologer) " but nevertheless more rapid with my “problems” was dismantled, when she began to study - if it would know their reasons. Moreover actually, it is interesting to conduct the process about of , when you previously know them.
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Mattyred





Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 15:41    

I drew off itself for the sake of the signs of horoscope, with the maps of container and with and generally based on it is much than, it is simple so for the interest. My opinion, all this the same illusion as the large part of the fact that simply is realized - our inherent creation. And all and map will perform for you as long as YOU ITSELF you add to this value you feed this for yourself by faith!





It is agreeable about the forecasts, when you leave down the definite level, they can cease to work, but here… I do not know… it is not desirable to be repeated about the map, but I already here said that I know special-OV, which on the date of birth can describe so many about the man as his personal biographers, in this case and to separate all psychological aspects, and, being never met for the sake of this person… And its faith or disbelief not at all plays any value.
Also, as entire nature of the earth, we are subjected down the influence of phases of the moon, this includes such “phenomena” as tides, seeding, an increase in the hair and nails, learning ability level, sleep-walking, tendency down to the mental disorders before the definite phase of the moon, the menses and the like
I lunar days on -4, pieces 13 thus far and noted that 29 lunar day did not act in the manner that earlier beyond me.
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Mattyred





Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 02:56    

It is agreeable about the forecasts, when you leave down the definite level, they can cease to work, but here… I do not know… it is not desirable to be repeated about the map, but I already here said that I know special-OV, which on the date of birth can describe so many about the man as his personal biographers, in this case and to separate all psychological aspects, and, being never met for the sake of this person… And its faith or disbelief not at all plays any value.
But based on what you did solve that its faith it does play here no value? And not at all fact that it all these on the date of birth does draw, it can simply it is adjusted down the man and simply “it does read” this information based on the man, and via what that of its fabrications (simply this more convenient to it before its understanding) it does reduce this down the date of birth?





Also, as entire nature of the earth, we are subjected down the influence of phases of the moon, this includes such “phenomena” as tides, seeding, an increase in the hair and nails, learning ability level, sleep-walking, tendency down to the mental disorders before the definite phase of the moon, the menses and the like
I lunar days on -4, pieces 13 thus far and noted that 29 lunar day did not act in the manner that earlier beyond me.
But here this is also far FROM fact, this, in addition Vera (even conviction, which also greatly even it is studied) before the fact that this performs and influences, the faith is here before these phases, tides. I propose even that against the definite level “of development” (so this let us name, although development the concept is also relative), with the study of the basal abutments, precisely, of the key moments of your play, which strictly and assign entire your play, all these” phenomena " it is possible to consciously control and to assign its, the convenient for you against the given moment conditions. This is named creation, the manifestation of free will. All frames and limitations are created by us, by our baggage, our and convictions.





Well I, in general, when she spoke “the tides” had in mind those, which occur in the world ocean… I do not think, that someone will claim that if we do not believe before the fact that in the sea flood tide, then it will not occur…. I can not believe before the gravitation, but, nevertheless, I do not break away from the earth and do not fly away beside space, when to run skipping…
“Already long ago by scientists it is noticed, that tides are controlled by the Moon. Lunar gravitation causes raising the level of ocean down 1,5 meters, and before the narrow bays this value achieves 12-16 meters. Even solid mantle of the earth reacts
for the movement of the Moon - it is raised down 50 centimeters (it occurs this incline sufficiently evenly; therefore we we do not note this). Therefore it is not surprising that the human organism, which consists down 80% of the fluid, is subjected down lunar effect. Furthermore, the Moon exerts influence also beyond the earth's magnetic field. “
Before the same article there is statistics of access to psychologists, before the dependence beyond the phases of the moon.





Before this article it is discussed how phases of the moon they are connected with our organism.





Further, this current phenomenon as menses - this and there is the most straight direct effect of lunar cycle beyond the man. “The tides” of female organism. (Word “menses” it originates from Latin “mensis” (month), which in turn, originates from word “moon”. Literally menstrual cycle indicates “lunar cycle”. )
(True, ambiguous Antonio it claims that the menses “is admitted” down this peace by or by the concealed forces in order to extract energy in women… and it is possible it to stop, if we are occupied this question… but, for some reason, me this his theory thus far not of …)
Here here curious articles about the biorhythms of url





“In addition to this, it is long ago noticed that the flood tide of forces occurs at the moment of full moon in man, the excitability of nervous system increases, irritability is increased. Before the new moon, on the contrary, us they pursue weakness, reduction in the creative forces and abilities. The authoritative doctors of antiquity wrote about the strong effect of the Moon beyond the mentally sick people. Contemporary research confirm that the sleep-walking and schizophrenia have monthly and fortnightly cycles. But in the patients for the sake of epilepsy the frequency of fits is increased on 1-3- y day after new moon and full moon.
In 1976. by our medical researchers was conducted the scale research of the blood simultaneously in the inhabitants of Moscow, Kirov, Petrozavodsk and other cities. It was established that with a change in the phases of the moon the content of hemoglobin was changed. Before other research it turned out that strong hemorrhages after operation and with the ulcer are beside the full moon. Acute food poisonings also occur most frequently beside the full moon. But in children with the growing Moon an increase in the pulmonary diseases, whooping cough and allergic reactions is noted. Before the full moon it is better not to conduct the vaccination of children against smallpox - inoculation will not be effective. “





“Discussion of the questions of the effect of planets suggests that many name nonsense. But it would be unjustifiably a priori negate the possible effect of solar, lunar and other effects only because astrology was senseless and before the dictionary is defined as “the pseudoscience, which lay claims down the forecast of the future by studying the assumed effect of the sun, Moon and stars beyond the human behavior”. Similar popular beliefs frequently are based beyond the absence of information. However, but which is actually known about so-called astrology, especially in the form the effect of solar and planetary effects on terrestrial events?
Scientists demonstrated the presence of correlation between the position of planets and the lines of individual. Before one research (Mayo, White and Eysenck, 1978), published beside Journal of Of social Of psychology, they tried to prove that the and ex-grassRT traits of nature be determined as far as zodiacal sign, i.e., by the month of birth. Testing it used data of 2324 persons and showed that the persons, originated under the signs it was, , Leo, weights, Sagittarius and water carrier they had the great probability of ex-grassRTfoot behavior, and the originated under the sign corpuscles, crab, virgins, scorpion, capricorn and fishes - . Results stably confirmed hypothesis, just as before others similar of research (Gauquelin, Gauhquelin and Eysenck, 1979).
It is also known that the gravitational field of the Moon proves to be it influences water, lithospheric and atmospheric flood tides on the Land. It is known that the Moon controls the time of the reproduction of coral polyps, the close of the blisters of oysters, the preferred accomplishment of some crimes and the excitation of those, who suffer “sleep-walking”, it is moreover, known that during the full moon in women more frequently occurs the ovulation also more frequently they begin types.
With the presence of such data it is already not difficult to present the effect of lunar cycles beyond the behavior of market. Already by Larry Williams (Larry Of williams, 1979) discovered that the prices besides silver, wheat, maize and soybean oil are increased beside the full moon and fall beside the new moon! “





“The market sleep-walking
People since olden times believed that the behavior of man depends on lunar cycles. American scientists Ilya and Troy for 30 years analyzed the indicators of the world Stock Markets and revealed interesting conformity with the laies. It proves to be, full moon causes depression and pessimism; therefore investors at this time behave more carefully. “
It is in detail about the Moon, its effect beyond metabolism and psyche here ov url
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Komaetati





Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 14:09    

And for example the uncertainty principle of Heisenberg
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Komaetati





Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:47    

This of reference in essence for the Jura Mountains in order to expand the model described as far as it.
But with the determination of the freedom of will all is simple - from the same :
Freedom of will = freedom of choice (Greek. το of αύτεξούσιον or το of εφ 'ημίν, Lat. liberum of arbitrium) - from the times of Socrates and thus far debatable before the philosophy and the theology a question about that do possess people real control over their decisions and behavior.
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Rom





Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 13:51    

2 Kurilov
I think response down your questions are here





Eugene suffered Jan I and it went to To ) "))





The freedom of will, , concept completely conditional, and, before the essence, are only the sensation of its own level of realization with respect to one or other area or another.
All depends on realization. I, for example, based on a certain time began to feel itself “for the sake of oracle” with respect to the lives of some not particularly wiser for the sake of the life of people - that which them seems completely “unpredictable” and “random” play, before which they allegedly realize exceptionally their own will and desires, me it personally seems by the predictable and programmed outcome and by the result of the rigidly pierced templates, which were created by no means by this person, but by external factors. The forecast of the result of all events does not present to me great labor and it seems trivial; strictly, me usually this even distresses.
About the reference given above there is theory of Everett according to the multiplicity of peaces and the description of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics. Briefly, with respect to our discussion, essence lies in the fact that any “forecast” depends on “observation”. Not observed, i.e., , process, possess the definite statistical conformity with the laies, which lead down the definite results. Which, apparently, not so it is difficult to describe with the help of the containers, I Of or some other sufficiently complete system. But if we the obtained forecast “take to the information” and as follows (VA) of , then its result will be where less predicted, and this is natural. This I about “A then glance beside that comprised personally for you by astrologer forecast still in the past year, where it is black on white written…”. To look it was necessary not in this year, but in the past.
Output based on all this is sufficiently paradoxical. The realization of the laws of behavior or events in one area makes all this “machine”, then are opened new areas for “free will”. However, from the point of view of another, “more realizing” entity that which us at this moment seems by the manifestation “free will”, it will seem by simply pattern program in action.
Strictly, “the creation of abilities” and the forming of skills is reduced down an increase in the realization and thus to the invention of control above the areas “random chaos”, which is from this point on, settled by routine activity plan.
But the concept “free will” GENERALLY as any absolute, is an incorrect term of old-philosophical overflow.





Here I about which and speak that if we dig deeper and it is deeper, then there is no freedom of will, and there is altogether only our inability to comprehend the algorithms of our activities. As soon as algorithms become more clearly, then you understand, that thus far it was not free and you become like as freer to that moment, until and these new algorithms you realize. And so thus far you will not achieve some limit and will not solve, that now- that you is precisely free. But this it will altogether only illusion, or more precisely by your personal inability glance still deeper.





I even thus did not formulate. Against the foundation of concept “free will” lies artificial subunit beyond “I” and “”. Type, “I” develops “will” in the area “of ”. But this, as many is understood, piece very… unreliable.





there is no freedom of will
Truth - is not river.





Julia G.





my opinion - it is necessary to be raised above all this. And then all will become evident as was evidently to Serafim





With the respect,
Julia





there is no freedom of will
Truth - is not river.
Well you directly perfidiously cut out several words besides the context. I do not claim that absolutely it does not exist. Simply before my speculations I am struck beside similar outputs. Based on the other side, possibly to me simply are not sufficient knowledge, in order to come to another conclusion. I to the fact that if any medieval mechanic would try to reflect about how it is possible to move of one point of the earth beside the opposite at the point of 20 hours, then for sure also it came across down the thought, that this is impossible therefore first therefore that. Therefore as it would use for the sake of those data, which would be down it available against that moment.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 23:11    

Its a little delirium…
It does can separately Of , and then before the decanted condition Of , in order to already and forever?





It does can separately Of , and then before the decanted condition Of , in order to already and forever?
What and forever?





Pe, you did have in mind in order to precisely realize the targets of the aspects of ? :. it is logical, it is possible to try - if play still is continued after the neutralization of , then completely it is possible to pass separately on each of 2 of the polarities of …
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 06:55    

It does can separately Of , and then before the decanted condition Of , in order to already and forever?
What and forever?
and forever to move out the play beside .





It does can separately Of , and then before the decanted condition Of , in order to already and forever?
What and forever?
and forever to move out the play beside .
Perhaps, we must obtain freedom of choice: to continue the play, connected for the sake of or not. But further each must solve itself… To me here very interestingly as this occurs in practice in different people. Does can who- filament from those merged it will share for the sake of sensations from the point of view of relationship (freedom of choice)/() before the play, connected for the sake of ? Or with any polarities?
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 22:28    

Being returned to the theme of the post:





It is sufficiently long, but there there is a response - there is no difference.
But for me thus far there is) ") ") "))
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