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Madvii Mofikov
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 07:28
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Finally to me fell client which it forces to seek, to think, to try, nonstandard on the whole.
If you please prompt your sight of further process.
From the observations. Earlier there were some traumata, but they were successfully solved by experience of their complete ignoring. Before this time also he wishes not to enter into the condition of trauma, tons to painfully, it is terrible and so forth
On my sight - desirably soft technicians for example the modified method from void of minutes down 15-20, then .
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garyhd
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 01:24
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Try “to explain” the basic formula of vital failure, with holding of breath, before the book it is described. I on itself tested - immediately leave outside the very deep content, exactly for the processing , result me personally very .
.. advice is based beyond the subjective impression, as you understand itself…
Earlier there were some traumata, but they were successfully solved by experience of their complete ignoring. Before this time also he wishes not to enter into the condition of trauma, tons to painfully, it is terrible and so forth
On my sight - let us try the modified method from void of minutes down 15-20, then .
If client is not capable or fears to the negative occurence (terribly or painfully) and equipment they do not operate for it at this point, then I think better to work with the softer technicians, where are included the steps of forgiveness - for example by the complete version of that intended for the traumata. If fear still will remain - it is possible to shoot down .
When client will become more easy and in order to be confident that all roots of problem retracted - then it is possible to still and .
However, clients are different and before the level of tolerance (level of tolerance), and before the age.
But with holding of breath - not each it can approach - I on the client not of (perhaps which if itself asks after the explanation of the fact that it can occur). It can become very terribly. Never you know that in this case at the point of client it is necessary to - can prove to be the occurence of death from the suffocation from the past life (or that client absorbs as past life).
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Madvii Mofikov
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:31
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Here even not the fact that he does not wish, but it the fact that allowed oneself installation, that this was, but no longer I will allow. Well and certainly there before the trauma very strong charge, although if it remembers as picture it according to her nothing feels.
Means the fact that intuitively it was wanted already at the end the session this good.
Then similarly that you correctly acted. I- that she first thus comprehended that in client it was strong fear- emotion, such that also not to approach, and it is not simple attitude- installation.
But if this the attitude- installation “of ” was machined, and then you look and against the occurence will move out!
Well it is not necessary to forget about small , it is possible to begin based on it, to retract fears and then “to dive” in !
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Madvii Mofikov
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 19:08
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So I zh wrote like, I first of all launched, but this moment. I see picture, it is fixed, but (kilohms. after traumata. experience it allowed oneself installation, that this was, past, and I will not allow) but into condition enter it cannot, already even at will (here the force of intention), i.e., barely it entered, but it did from there hammer out that. And effect from to even if it was, then it is already very deep .
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Nona
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 13:15
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Regards!
In whom is work experience with the client in psoriasis
A little of experience:
before the process of deep the client falls before nothing literally it very rapidly and remains before it, further as he speaks they vanish all emotions, sensation, thought and picture by itself. But further this nothing (rest in this specific case) it moves. Classifies as rest and pacification, but one but, problem in it is not solved. There is two this “nothing”
1 this is the route down to be lowered on the circuit of targets and
is 2nd this “wall in the form of the protective reaction of mind”, type or , where the client sees nothing, nothing not he , nothing he knows.
If this it was plerome, then problem at least did weaken or this can they even newer problem, something like the fact that processing does not work for it?
In whom there is experience on this question if you please write.
somehow in others with whom I work everything pass also with the emotions and the sensations and the thoughts, on the present with complete …
Thanks, Luna
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Rom
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 13:37
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There is this theme -
Idea is simple - the surfacing material is most ready to resolution. If there is no material that is possible simply to wait. The author of methodology describes, that he worked and and material went only in twenty minutes. Although the rest and vacuum - also can be taken for the work.
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dhi sertifiid procecsol
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 02:52
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The Moon, from as is preset a question (and not only this, but also other your questions) it is evident that seminar you did not pass and even she did not look (or nothing from this it assimilated). But this is necessary in order to use for the work with the people. There are the definite “courses”, depending on that, where the process visited. There are underwater calculi. But also any recommendations… And beyond the study of all this are spent 4 days on 8 hours. I advise to look or to visit personally seminar, and thus far to use those processes, by which you entirely.
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Madvii Mofikov
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 04:30
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down psoriasis to fill 2007 (look for on the search on the forum), then To with the small modification, but try first then write before
Idea is simple - the surfacing material is most ready to resolution.
I do not see, before what here “methodology”. Before any methodology they work with the fact that one way or another it floats up or it is raised. Question before how to work. simply dully chase “ of incidents to the erasure”, and all in them on this is constructed. I do not think that in this case this would be appropriately.
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Rom
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 07:31
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I do not propose to be occupied by , I propose to wait, until timely material is revealed, and to then .
I do not propose to be occupied by , I propose to wait, until timely material is revealed, and to then .
But if nothing it does appear?
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Yeshi
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 09:28
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On the basis of the theory this “nothing” can and it is most likely and material for the work.
At the seminars Of it always describes that it is possible to make in that case. As version there are polarities tied on “nothing” for example, “I - nothing” or “everything - nothing” or many others…
But generally, I am joined down the advice the lights Of - to visit personally seminar or to at least attentively examine video, in this case it is better than the latter Moscow seminar.
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Rom
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 20:42
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I do not propose to be occupied by , I propose to wait, until timely material is revealed, and to then .
But if nothing it does appear?
To continue still minutes twenty, current e- meter is certainly necessary.
On the basis of the theory this “nothing” can and it is most likely and material for the work.
At the seminars Of it always describes that it is possible to make in that case. As version there are polarities tied on “nothing” for example, “I - nothing” or “everything - nothing” or many others…
It seems to me that “does not appear nothing” and does appear “nothing” - different things, no?
To continue still minutes twenty, current e- meter is certainly necessary.
It follows from my experience of the search for points for the work that it can so not to appear nothing charged, i.e., of indications on the e- meter it will not be.
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Yeshi
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 09:44
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It seems to me that “does not appear nothing” and does appear “nothing” - different things, no?
Things that different, but here this not principally. The man always has some condition and if this not of plerome, then it is possible to take beside the work as there is. The decanted polarities this before the essence the same of plerome only is deeper therefore there to work not with which.
It follows from my experience of the search for points for the work that it can so not to appear nothing charged, i.e., of indications on the e- meter it will not be.
If there is nothing charged, then it will not be and problem or theme for the work is formulated incorrectly
But here the author of post speaks:
Classifies as rest and pacification, but one but, problem in it is not solved.
So that something clearly exists.
As version still here can be requested: “You now feel the rest and pacification, and is whether something, what you now would not desire to feel” and to take this as finished polarity - “rest which is now” and “undesirable condition”. This is the standard reception, with the help of which always it is possible to check did decide the problem or there is even a deeper polarity.
The man always has some condition and if this not of plerome, then it is possible to take beside the work as there is.
To , but this condition must be somehow named? otherwise as with it to work
The decanted polarities this before the essence the same of plerome only is deeper therefore there to work not with which.
, is interesting. If client achieves condition pleromes, then this is well noticeable. But there were the cases, when client did claim that the polarities were merged, but condition pleromes I did not observe - which this did mean?
But here the author of post speaks:
Classifies as rest and pacification, but one but, problem in it is not solved.
So that something clearly exists.
As version still here can be requested: “You now feel the rest and pacification, and is whether something, what you now would not desire to feel” and to take this as finished polarity - “rest which is now” and “undesirable condition”. This is the standard reception, with the help of which always it is possible to check did decide the problem or there is even a deeper polarity.
Aha, the good reception
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Rom
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 17:28
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It follows from my experience of the search for points for the work that it can so not to appear nothing charged, i.e., of indications on the e- meter it will not be.
and ) ") ") ")
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Nona
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 05:30
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Regards!
Entire many thanks at the point of the responses!
And I was on and she looked lectures
and we merged all polarities those being respectively concerned this " nothing "
“I- nothing”, “All- nothing”, “nothing intra-anything outside”, “nothing here- all there”, “nothing great- nothing small”, “nothing my- nothing stranger”
Problem with psoriasis this as room before by things, within there are many any subparagraphs for the study. I do not work only with psoriasis, but I work also with those things of which it consists.
There are no problems with the study, it is past the pair of months, but already at the end always it appears nothing, in it this simply already NOTHING. and all that which necessary to do on the instructions is used so that you would do with this nothing if we men of further this condition go it does can?
Yes, within the process are drawn off other polarities. Nothing I request after this, that you would not wish to survive either to feel, he occurs response nothing survive- pass -again nothing, or response " malice " - yes we further pass at the end again before nothing. Again new point- pass at the end nothing.
It was not to time so that some psychological problem would be returned anew.
And on the circular processing it was not only whom, even cream and moreover very successfully. Psoriasis on the skin creates appearance that it passes, but it remains.
In this case many other psychological problems are solved successfully.
If these courses exist, then YOU Svetlana simply prompt concretely that to make, and not on the whole.
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Nona
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 00:07
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Problem with psoriasis this as room before by things, within there are many any subparagraphs for the study. I do not work only with psoriasis, but I work also with those things of which it consists.
If the process from the point of view of body was already carried out and all known reasons for stress (one of the main reasons for this illness) seem reduced in this stage (and assuming that the processes were carried out correctly - we we do not see here the recordings of the sessions and we cannot this judge), then before the context technician still it is possible to try to check client for remain possible antagonistic motivation.
For this ask client to pose the following questions to itself:
1) why me it was desirable to hold the remained signs of this illness?
2) what profit I do receive based on the fact that I do have this illness?
It can completely seem that status of patient attracts increased attention of the close ones of client and it subconsciously it would not be desirable to lose this, or disease is held from other considerations of profit - for example - the possibility of obtaining the free permit beside the sanatorium with the retention of official diagnosis - yes little whether which still can be…
It can be also it is worthwhile to work above the polarities - “to hold (thing, disease, emotion) - to temper (thing, disease, emotion)” and “to have something - not to have nothing” it can be even “pain - pleasure” (if this appears before the responses down questions above).
If client has the depressed or deeply “concealed” emotions - desirable to work before this direction - I remember Oleg he wrote that in it there is down this the method, and also, in my opinion, there are in the Russian some methodologies based on the work with the emotions for such cases in Of (for example - intuitive letter and others of his equipment -
But if you read in the English that free of charge it is possible to read the first head of its new book “Your Of emotional Of power” - Chapter 1: “Learning to Of feel Of your Of feelings” (head includes concrete instructions in order to learn to understand and to feel its emotions) to load here - http://xobblitbooks.son/ptv/cxabter1.ptv)
In parallel with the carrying out of the sessions it is possible to also help body on the physical plan to manage the remainders of the disease (desirably with the help of the natural means). They can be useful with psoriasis (but better to confer doctor):
- a deep respiration for an increase in the influx of the blood and oxygen to the skin (for these purposes also they can be useful the procedure “hyperbaric oxygenation” and “temperature biofeedback”)
- inspection down the disbalance of the minerals (deficiency or the excess of minerals it is characteristic with psoriasis) - this is how you this will add By ? (perhaps that you will begin to work with the esoteric symbols for the alchemic transmutation of minerals)
- the systemic immunomodulators (lowered immunity it is characteristic for psoriasis)
- cleaning means for the deduction of toxins and means for the cell regeneration
- vitamin B3 (niacin) - is used with the cutaneous diseases, including psoriasis
It is added - still can try visualization as method for the auto- healing (if certainly you wish not to be limited exclusively Down ) - to load interactive (14 files of visualizations and 2 additional files with the explanations on the Eng - even without text is understandable how to visualize) - here http://evidincilocker.olj/baskop/DreamHealer%20-%20Visualizatians%20for%20Self-Impowerment/Fisualizateons/
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Nona
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 01:18
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The many thanks,
interesting and to eat above how to think and to work
Apropos the second question which resounded very similarly down this it was established that it is used this in order to hide from the people, this was before the conversation along the road and so it remained not defined
actually on business
Luna
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dhi sertifiid procecsol
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:55
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The Moon, interestingly what there were precisely cycling processes and did try you to work with the help of 4?
The views of psoriasis itself, close people did make (mom or it can eat a relative with the same illness?) circular based on the point. whether deep down the fact that what feelings does cause in man this psoriasis?
But 4 it is possible to work many polarities by analogy with the theme of money. Here it can be: to have / to have (to take another person); to feel itself by guilty (humbled, by patient, unhappy, by unlucky wretch, unloved and so forth that still it will arrive down the mind), being sick psoriasis/to feel itself (excellent, healthy, happy, successful, loved…), without having psoriasis.
So it is possible 4 to merge easy to strive / to strive; to merge itself (as man, whom has it is not received to recover) and man, of something, what with difficulty is treated (for me this example - Paul ).
But at the point of it is surely necessary to not only that which is directly connected for the sake of psoriasis, but also that which before the life of this person has the greatest charge. Can learn to its solo- processing (-2, -4), give the missions, from time to time be encountered for deep . Because against the foundation of this illness can lie the entirely inevident emotional problems, which can surface and be discharged if we simply that there is. This advice gave to me , when I him requested how to work with the view. He said that not directly, but simply working with other vital problems.
Another advice - to observe the liquid intake regimen not only in the days of processing, but also all the remaining time when this will not enter beside the habit. Because against the level of body for sure there is . If this person can still and change feed down the side of of lighter or at least forego the food, which contains artificial additives, then it is still better. Any bath- saunas I also contribute down work (if it is possible with this illness).
If you prescribe in detail any session, then it can something another they advise.
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dhi sertifiid procecsol
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 18:20
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Apropos “nothing”.
If it is not polarized as the vacuum, about which it is possible to say inside it or outside, then this most likely such of plerome. And to work further as with on the 3rd points. But then to try to polarize, after requesting “now you nothing you feel, but is whether something that you he would not wish now to test?”. If something appears, then continue the process with this.
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Rom
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 17:13
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From Lisa's book
Your body tells “ itself!” - metaphysics of the diseases
PSORIASIS
Psoriasis - very spread cutaneous disease, which damages people of both of sexes and all ages. With psoriasis appear characteristic paleolae against the skin, especially before the so-called traumatic zones - on the elbows, the elbows, the fibrous unit of the head, the palms of hands and the soles of feet. Sometimes psoriasis can be developed, also, in other sectors of body. Paleolae are formed by the plates, which overlap themselves down each other. Old plates thicker whitish and with the contact with the clothing are converted beside the white dust.
See article THE SKIN (PROBLEMS), with that addition, that man wishes to replace the skin, i.e., to be changed. He does not feel himself comfortably before his present appearance. Possibly, it seems it that it they do not recognize or absorb somehow not thus. In it the desire to change its individual, to become someone other even can arise. To it is difficult to be reconciled with itself itself. Psoriasis tells it, that it must recognize itself after such, such as it exists now, with all its deficiencies, by fears, by weaknesses, by advantages, after talents and so forth it must take itself, without testing shame or fear to be rejected.
SKIN (PROBLEMS)
Physical blocking
The skin, the external integument of body, consist of the lower layer (derma) and the surface stratum (epidermis). It protects body and provides its fixed contact with the surrounding peace. The basic problems, connected for the sake of the skin, are described before the appropriate articles of this book.
Emotional blocking
Against the metaphysical level the skin presents the ability of man to value itself before face of the surrounding peace. Being the shell of body, it reflects that the fact that man thinks about himself. To Tom, who wishes to learn, that he in reality thinks about himself, it suffices to describe its skin. Example: tender skin I means I consider itself tender. If the skin dry, see also article ICHTHYOSIS.
Any problem with the skin speaks, that man is shamed himself. He attaches too great significance so that others think about it. It does not permit at the point of itself to be itself itself and it too willingly itself rejects. Its internal wholeness is easily disturbed even by weak effects from without. This person is very sensory to the fact that occurs around it, it too easily permits at the point of others to catch it at the point of the living and it cannot fall in love with itself by such, as there is.
If problem with the skin is escorted by the liberation of pus, this speaks, that some person or situation to you is so unpleasant that you try to get rid besides them with the help of this illness.
Serious cutaneous disease - excellent method to be postponed from the people. The skin permits at the point of man to enter beside the contact with other people, it permits at the point of it to isolate itself from the people. Man can so strongly be shamed himself which rejects to enter beside relations for the sake of other people, using its cutaneous illness as the justification. It becomes untouchable. He would wish to have new skin, i.e., completely to be changed.
When men tries with someone to draw together and is struck beside the indifference or neglect, this causes in it shame and offense, who, in turn, can cause the crab of the skin.
If cutaneous disease forces man constantly to be carded, see also article ITCH.
The disease, which destroys only surface stratum of the skin (for example, ), he speaks, that man heavily survives explosion, separation or stopping of relations. He feels himself rejected. This person always thirsts to rescue others, especially the representatives of opposite floor.
The casualty body part presents the sphere of life, before which should be sought the reason for disease (example: the defeat of face speaks about the fear to lose its face). You can learn the designation of different body parts from this book.
Mental blocking
Your skin is very well visible and to you very and, etc. The serious problem, the stronger you harasses your relation to itself. You must change your representations about yourself. For this you must transfer your positive qualities and each day on the sheet of paper supplement this list for the sake of one new point. If in you difficulties appear, be turned for help down those, who knows well you. Cutaneous disease - important signal about the fact that you must allow oneself the law to be inadequate and not to consider in this case that you cost nothing. You have the right without the feeling of guilt to make the decision, which will permit you to save her hide, even if this decision is not pleased by the fact, whom you love. Your value is included before the fact that is located before your heart, before your unique individuality - and not before the events and things of physical peace.
Spiritual blocking and the conclusion
In order to comprehend the spiritual blocking, which prevents the satisfaction besides essential needs of your true I, pose to itself the questions, given at the end of this book. Responses down these questions will permit you to more precisely determine the present reason for your physical problem.
SKINS THE REDDENING
Physical blocking
The description given below relates down the reddenings of the skins, which are not escorted by pain or itch.
Emotional blocking
The reddenings of the skin can speak, that man contains himself, trying to correspond to some mode, and he finally begins to feel himself for the sake of the prisoner of the selected role. It forces itself, since it fears not to correspond to the ideal created for the sake of it. In order to learn, before what sphere of its life of men it contains itself, should be explained the designation of the body part, against which appear the reddenings.
In some people the neck and face very frequently reddens. As a rule, such reddenings speak, that man suddenly felt fear. This can be fear not to justify the waiting of other people, i.e., not to correspond to ideal mode. To this person it is usually difficult to take itself after such, as it there is.
Mental blocking
Your body tells you that you create for yourself not easily attainable ideal and that others they wait from you much smaller than you think. Have a talk with them and be convinced besides this.
Spiritual blocking and the conclusion
In order to comprehend the spiritual blocking, which prevents the satisfaction besides essential needs of your true I, pose to itself the questions, given at the end of this book. Responses down these questions will permit you to more precisely determine the present reason for your physical problem.
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Rom
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 09:43
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ICHTHYOSIS
Physical blocking
Ichthyosis is characterized as far as the constant dryness of skin and as far as the desquamation of the skin. Most frequently this illness is developed immediately after the birth of child or before the first months of his life. Read the given below description and article THE SKIN (PROBLEMS).
Emotional blocking
Since this illness destroys man before the early childhood, its reasons most likely should be sought before its past life. Any dryness of the skin speaks about dry, insufficiently soft relation to something or someone. Since the skin presents that unit of our individual, which we show to those surrounding, as far as its condition it is possible error-free to judge that, such as of men he wishes to seem other people. Dry skin speaks, that he does not wish to show its vulnerability, its softness.
Mental blocking
If in you ichthyosis or dry skin, your body wish so that you would become soft with respect to themselves and other people. You no longer must create some definite mode and always monitor yourself. Observe above one of your familiar, which permits at the point of itself to develop softness, and you will see, that he not is more vulnerable, than everything else. Try to be more flexible and softer, and your life will become much more pleasant.
If your child is sick for the sake of ichthyosis, read to him this explanation - his soul mandatorily everything will comprehend.
Spiritual blocking and the conclusion
In order to comprehend the spiritual blocking, which prevents the satisfaction besides essential needs of your true I, pose to itself the questions, given at the end of this book. Responses down these questions will permit you to more precisely determine the present reason for your physical problem.
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Rom
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:38
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It is possible to still lead the personal processes beyond the themes of the type
- I wish but I cannot cure the client
- my clients wish to cure themselves
- something prevents me from treating the clients
- I do not understand that to make
and all the rest, connected for the sake of the data by client and by situation.
Run, thanks as the material in metaphysics of diseases!
But is there no down this book?
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garyhd
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 02:46
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The Moon, it is possible so to turn down Tatiana , it very precisely the roots of problems takes, is confident that it will be able to help.
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Rom
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 03:20
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But is there no down this book?
Still it is possible to recommend the first book Of ,
, and Of - but the latter carefully, is different opinions on its occasion.
, in me is this book, has long ago been it I put to use, I can be sent.
Me it greater pleases, than and To …
However, recently looked it against the object of one its problem with the health and not entirely to me “” description… A at the seminar there was , which also treats on time of line of therapy, so here it looked beside its booklet and it clearly to me gave out, from where i have problem. Also, mandatorily it is considered, the right or left side of body is casualty in each case (what does not consider , but it considers , although the descriptions of it frequently are not timely already).
Also, yesterday looked , down which it here gave the reference Of void and focused attention, which there tells that down the chronic problems our system reacts considerably more weakly than down the sharp or the new. I.e., if, for example, in this case psoriasis - this is old or chronic problem, then it is necessary to be occupied by the activation of the system so that it would cease to assume this illness as the normal state of organism.
Also, the skin - is the greatest organ of man and it symbolizes the boundaries of man and his defense from the environment. I.e., where begins the skin - or “from the skin inward” - this “I”. Frequently, problems with the skin begin, when the boundaries of man by force transgressed themselves - any past physical violence could become flip-flop.
It is possible to look beside the past - it was not so that this client they did strike parents or someone it did offend in the school or before the yard? Also, any physical attempts and humiliations also can play role. Relations for the sake of the opposite floor can also pronounce - sometimes man underwent any type to violence (even straight line) - but it could be forced to enter physiological relations against its will or even with the unconscious internal resistance. These elements also it is possible to and to integrate.
Today - does feel this person, that the boundaries of his individual constantly are disturbed? If yes, then it is possible to work with this. Does use he its illness or its skin as defense from those surrounding? And so forth
Any cutaneous problems, it is subconscious before the essence, this - crushed before the depth, sealed down seven locks irritability and nonacceptance both itself, their peace and exterior and the surrounding peace!
They lie very deeply, this is why even practice with great experience always they cannot “reveal” this “ulcer” and machine this entirely!
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Tatiamo
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 09:52
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Well, in reality with the sufficient study, in all, that " interfere withs” it is possible and independently to moving out to many recollections, and so “” that which so sadly lives on the skin) ". I here only one can say - there are no one and the same reasons for the different people, although the disease can name equally. All it is very individual, completely unexpected reasons can be and it can be, even at first glance and not with the problem.
Regards Tanya!!! But you is agreeable that they they do lie against one area and layer?
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Tatiamo
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 06:09
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Sasha))it is agreeable. Generally in entire one and the same mechanism - difference only before the experience and the forming of precisely this sore and not other, therefore I and not to different “” with the enumeration of the emotional reasons for somatic diseases. And generally in you an excellent example on the forum exists, man with hepatitis and if we cast a look “” the must be something connected. to. I do not remember already ") what there with the liver on the lists - censure or criticism, … But here if to the man - there terrible from the fact of its stay before this peace.
I and not to different “” with the enumeration of the emotional reasons for somatic diseases.
Yes, man is more complex and many-faceted than any list.
I think that the principal danger - to firmly adhere to the version, presented before “the list”, while, on the fact, goes another material.
And generally in you an excellent example on the forum exists, man with hepatitis and if we cast a look “” the must be something connected. to. I do not remember already ") what there with the liver on the lists - censure or criticism, … But here if to the man - there terrible from the fact of its stay before this peace.
, but before the book about the diseases of the liver is said: “Your liver tells you that you have entire necessary in order to shield itself.”
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